142. Ukraine, Defense, and Climate Change with William Hague and David Miliband
All eyes are on Ukraine as we watch the horrific events unfold as a result of Russian aggression. Are we sliding toward a global catastrophe or seeing the birth of a new political order? How will we know which one awaits us?
This week, we speak to former UK Foriegn Ministers David Miliband and the Rt Hon Lord William Hague. We pitch to them this question of, \u201chow will we know which one awaits us?\u201d as we admire the resilience of the people of Ukraine and witness the inextinguishable might of people power.
Is this the ironic end of global energy dependence on a petrostate or the resurgence of fossil fuel infrastructure for the sake of energy independence?
No simple answers ahead.
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READ: William Hague\u2019s piece from 2019 in The Telegraph - Conservatives Have to Take the Climate Crisis Seriously
READ: David Miliband\u2019s latest in NYT - Ukraine Presents a Moral Crisis, Not Just a Military One
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Rt Hon Lord William Hague
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