Episode 59 is a little different. First off, this episode drops on a Monday rather than the usual Wednesday. And secondly, we appeared with Jim Gardiner on his popular show, Conversations in Courage and discussed what both courage and leadership looks like, especially in times of crises. Learn why Jim is an angel with balls and get ready to cringe when Andrew reads one of John's private text messages. This conversation was recorded by ZOOM video and we'll be posting the video soon! Enjoy everyone!