Zac had the opportunity to sit down with Shay Robbins, director at Kanakuk Kamps, to talk about the value of life's empty spaces. With technology rapidly growing, the amount of distractions in a leaders life is increasing along side it. Shay explains that in today's society, true leaders are marked by their ability to leverage dead space for their benefit and the benefit of those around them. Through this conversation, Zac and Coop are challenged to put their phones down and engage the world around them.