Nathan interviewed Li in this special episode of Means of Creation, where she talks about the $110M fund she recently raised with Jesse Walden and Spencer Noon of Variant. \n\nIf you\u2019re an avid fan of the show, you may have noticed how the podcast\u2019s focus has shifted from platforms in the passion economy to user-owned networks within web3. In this episode, Li talks about how her passion economy thesis converges with Variant\u2019s ownership economy thesis\u2014a crypto enabled future where consumer technology products are owned by their users, who contribute so much to their value. \n\nLi also talks about her personal journey into web3: what prompted her to go down the crypto rabbit hole, and the mental models she uses when investing in the creator economy\u2019s web3 future. \n\nThis is an episode that promises to intrigue crypto maxis and skeptics alike! Hope you all enjoy it.