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I was introduced to Richard Goebelt through my H+C partner Martin Adler. The Director for Automotive & Mobility of the T\xdcV \u2014 the Technischer \xdcberwachungsverein \u2014 Richard\u2019s primary field of work, not to mention his passion and interests, rests entirely on the safety and regulatory landscape of all things automotive and mobility generally, with, of course, a focus on autonomous vehicles.

Unsurprisingly, then, our conversation spanned the gamut from his thoughts about Tesla; a brief history of T\xdcV and Germany\u2019s impressive grasp on automotive safety; the social impacts of autonomous vehicles especially on matters of equality, or lack thereof; and much more besides.

This episode should be especially interesting to listeners in the US since we don\u2019t really have anything like the T\xdcV. I suppose a loose analogy might be local agencies that require smog checks every few years. At a minimum, the T\xdcV requires certification of compliance to validate roadworthiness of all vehicles, including everything from turn signals to suspension; engines and emissions; headlight alignment; and anything else besides, and certain of these certifications are required every two years.