50: Lunch with Leon episode 50 - Ben Plowden

Published: Dec. 1, 2021, 3:11 p.m.

Fresh from attending COP26, Leon Daniels OBE has lunch with Ben Plowden, formerly of Transport for London, who is one of the country\u2019s leading minds on urban planning, the environment and ensuring a sustainable lifestyle.
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\n\n\nThey chat about Independence Day and State of Fear, and why the climate emergency doesn\u2019t feel like an emergency, in the way that Covid did last year. And, why COP26 was a partial success.
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\n\n\nThey chew over what\u2019s happening in British Columbia \u2013 a wealthy industry country \u2013 that\u2019s been knocked sideways, and why it\u2019s a manifestation of change that\u2019s already here.