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\nThe many questions about how we reach net-zero
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\n\n\nIn a special edition, Leon Daniels swaps notes with Sara Sloman, who hosts sister-ITT Hub podcast Talking Net Zero.\xa0
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\n\n\nIn a wide-ranging, engaging and lively chat we discover Sara\u2019s \u2018all-time gripe\u2019 about \u2018all-things-green and sustainable\u2019, but they start by talking about a bottle of wine, before moving onto the controversial residents\u2019 parking scheme in Bristol.\xa0
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\n\n\nDesigned to encourage people out of their cars, rather than driving to within a mile of the city centre and then parking on residential streets the scheme\u2019s introduction was the source of much angst.\xa0
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\n\n\nThis question gives rise to the topic of forcing people to change their travel behaviour.
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\n\n\nIt seems that whatever you do in transport, it\u2019s often just \u2018shunting the problem\u2019, reckons Sara: \u201cIt\u2019s coastal erosion with cars!\u201d
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\n\n\nLocal politics come into play and the challenge that metro-mayors face of four-year terms \u2013 and having to rely on a second term, and being at the mercy of shifts of change in public opinion \u2013 means that four years is not long enough to do anything in the transport sector, we discover.
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\n\n\nLeon recalls advice he gave to London Mayor Boris Johnson, and asks if mayors are ready to make really tough decisions within the first few weeks of taking office.
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\n\n\nThis leads to a discussion about the \u2018short term of everything\u2019, the need for consistency and why \u2018engineers are biting their nails\u2019 when announcements are made.
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\n\n\nAre we too hung up on on-street charging and is the on-street charging issue overblown, Leon asks Sara, before they chat about micro-mobility and why people on eScooters are happy. \u201cYou never see a jogger smiling,\u201d observes Leon, while Sara explains the importance of how travel makes you feel. \u201cDoes it put a smile on your face?\u201d
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\n\n\nShe explains the enjoyment of a journey, how underrated bus travel is for the \u2018pleasure of the journey\u2019 and why sustainable travel \u2018gives you your life back\u2019.
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\n\n\nIs the solution for certain occasional travel car clubs? Sara and Leon swap tales about their car club experiences which include an egg, rubber gloves and an underground car park\u2026.
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