Hey everybody! We have Alex Hillman on the show today. Alex is the founder of Indy Hall, a coworking community in Philadelphia; he\u2019s also the co-founder of StackingtheBricks.com, along with Amy Hoy. In this episode, Alex and I discuss the essence of trust in relationship building and community building, the story behind 30x500 (he and Amy\u2019s flagship course), and how to identify and close the gap between what is obvious to you and what is obvious to your students.\n\nThere\u2019s always going to be a gap, your job is to identify that gap and close it one step at a time\n\n\nEpisode Quotes\n\n"Relationship building and community building is all about trust."\n\n"There is a range of what teaching really means but at the heart of it I think it's really understanding how to help people."\n\n"We are so used to being self-focused and wanting to be seen as that creative inspired genius."\n\nListen to Learn\n\n00:20\tGetting to know Alex, Rapid 5 Questions\n\n03:21\tAlex's business journey: web development to co-working\n\n09:47\tThe essence of TRUST in community and relationship building\n\n15:32\tAlex's teaching journey: HOW and WHY?\n\n18:37\tOverview of Alex and Amy\u2019s flagship course, 30x500\n\n22:53\tWhy people have the tendency to put the course before the audience?\n\n25:15\tOverhauling the bad habits, challenges faced, breaking down how to do things\n\n32:09\tA practical example: Sales Safari\n\n35:12\tFiguring out the "Stuck Zone"\n\n39:15\tAddressing the bad habits and changes that happened after\n\n47:22\tAlex's tips for course creators\n\n51:50\tExciting things coming up from Alex, links and announcements\n\nWant More? \n\nAlex and I recorded a bonus segment on how to build community online, which tools work best, and more. You can grab it here: https://get.zencourses.co/extra