Bob was my first trainer....EVER. He's the one who was more mentor, and role model than trainer. He was the one that had to really cut the BS and be straight with me when it came to eating better, that's when the results came. Since our time together he has gone on to become one of the leading voices in professional bodybuilding, as well being cast into some major movies. It was a blast to catch up with him, especially with my current trainer Kyle Bice on the same podcast.