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This week Julio joins Matt to talk with Mark McCaughrean Senior Advisor for Science & Exploration at the European Space Agency.\n\nIf you enjoy the show please go over to www.Patreon.com/Interplanetary and become a Patron or even a producer of the show. If you enjoy why not join the BIS at www.bis-space.com the oldest space advocacy organisation in the world.\nwww.interplanetary.org.uk\nHosts: Julio Aprea and Matt Russell\n\nMusic: Matt Russell / Iam7\nCover Image: ESA\nAdditional Narration: Polly\nTwitter @interplanetypod