Show #4 Hour\n1 | Guests: Thalia Zepatos of Public Engagement for FreedomToMarry.org,\nStephanie Koontz of Marriage, A History: From Obedience to Intimacy | Show\nSummary: Guests: Thalia Zepatos, Director of Public Engagement for\nFreedomToMarry.org, and professor Stephanie Koontz, author of Marriage, A\nHistory: From Obedience to Intimacy, or How Love Conquered Marriage.