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Today\u2019s episode is the second we\u2019ve done with this duo of Mike Siegel of Goose Island and Ron Pattinson, beer historian, writer, and a collaborator on a recipe revival project of sorts. Way back in 2016 we invited these two over to the studio to discuss their Brewery Yard Stock Pale Ale, a barrel-aged brett pale reminiscent of what a beer brewed in England over a century ago may have been like according to their research.\xa0

Today\u2019s conversation is about a new beer called Obadiah Poundage, which isn\u2019t trying to replicate a recipe so much as try to approximate what a porter might have tasted like if it were brewed in London in 1840.\xa0

These beers have both been fascinating, not only for their history and story, but the final product itself. They taste and feel familiar, but with an edge that\u2019s entirely foreign. Like a bizarro world version of a beer you think you know. Sometimes that\u2019s an ingredient choice, or a process decision, or in some cases, a fermentation character that\u2019s just slightly outside the norm. All of it adding up to a wholly enjoyable, yet intriguing\xa0 version of, in this case, a porter.\xa0

I love getting these two guys together\u2014you can see the child-like excitement that comes out of their shared passion for these collaborations. It\u2019s a great reminder of how genuinely fun beer, brewing, and history can be when it all comes together in a\xa0project like this.\xa0

This is Ron Pattinson and Mike Siegel, listen in.