Ecological science has had a persistent blind spot: the deep involvement of Indigenous peoples in managing their lands and waters. The return of Sea Otters from the brink of extinction, while celebrated, was enacted under a framework of settler colonialism. As voracious predators themselves, otters compete with humans for all of the same sea foods. One shellfish in particular has become a flash point for fisheries \u2013 a modest mollusc, Haliotis kamtschatkana: Northern Abalone.\n\nThis is part two of our three-part series on kelp worlds.\n\nThis episode features Kii'iljuus Barbara Wilson, Anne Salomon, and Charles Menzies.