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David Kramer and I have been friends for a long time - and he's been on the show more times than anyone - so we had a super fun time deconstructing the inspiration for David along with the levels of irony his hook rugs, currently in his solo exhibition at Freight + Volume Gallery titled Mar-A-Lago Sunsets. It's a great study of how an artist prevails under any/all circumstances. We also discuss his recent collaboration with Celine.\nCheck out David's work on Instagram! @dkramer5000