This episode is for you if:\n\nYou find yourself trying on hats as you try to figure out what you want to be and what you should be doing\xa0\n\nYou\u2019re someone who loves the creative process, the behind the scenes, the supporting roles\n\nYou\u2019re in a creative career that has intense and exciting projects with weird down time between them\n\n\nThis episode is a conversation with Mark Eshleman @reelbearmedia the creative and content director for the band Twenty One Pilots.\n\n--------------\nRiverside - The easiest way for you and your team to record, edit and share professional grade Videos and Podcasts, from anywhere in the world. Use code PEPTALK 15% Off\n\xa0https://creators.riverside.fm/creativepeptalk\xa0\n\n-------------\n\nSHOW NOTES:\nCo-Writing / Editing: Sophie Miller sophiemiller.co\nAudio Editing / Sound Design: Conner Jones pendingbeautiful.co\xa0\nSoundtrack / Theme Song: Yoni Wolf / WHY? whywithaquestionmark.com \xa0\n\nReel Bear Media: www.reelbearmedia.com\nInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelbearmedia/\n\nTwenty One Pilots https://www.twentyonepilots.com/\nhttps://www.instagram.com/twentyonepilots/\n\nAlso mentioned:\nFlor https://www.instagram.com/flor/\nSkateboarding video: Girl- Yeah Right\nTwenty One Pilots Graphic Design by Brandon Rike https://brandonrike.com/\nJim Henson documentary\xa0https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/movie/jim-henson-idea-man\n'The last of Us'\xa0video Game and hit tv show\nThe Band 'Men I trust' https://menitrust.com/\nChappell Roan https://www.iamchappellroan.com/