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PECIAL GUEST MEG LEWIS!\nhttps://darngood.co/\nhttps://www.instagram.com/darngooood/\n\nCREDITS\n\nSupport Creative Pep Talk on Patreon: www.patreon.com/creativepeptalk\n\nThanks to Yoni Wolf and the band WHY? for our theme music.\n\nThanks to Alex Sugg for editing and the podcast!\nwww.alexsugg.com