Erma Hermans combines academic knowledge with practical skill. Trained as a painting conservator and holding a doctorate in art history, Erma is also an art teacher and has a wide knowledge of fine and decorative arts. In this conversation we discuss what it means to become an \u2018expert generalist\u2019, exploring parallels between her world and my experience as a clinician. Erma is fascinated by the \u2018material biography\u2019 of each object she works with, interpreting its construction and history in the context of our contemporary lives.\xa0