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The country's energy paradigm is caught between the slogans of \u201cdrill-baby-drill\u201d and \u201coil is evil.\u201d The real problem arguably is that the global oil market is controlled by the OPEC cartel that artificially fixes prices. That could explain why oil prices continue to rise even though the United States, the world\u2019s largest petroleum consumer, is producing more and consuming less. \u201cWe can\u2019t be fixated on bringing down the price of oil because that is not going to happen,\u201d said Kate Gordon, Director of the Energy and Climate Program at Next Generation. Alternative fuels advocates say the only way that will change is with other fuels that can compete and give consumers choices for the first time since the early days of the automobile. \u201cThe concept of energy independence is misleading,\u201d said Eyal Aronoff, Co-founder of the Fuel Freedom Foundation, \u201cthe question is about oil independence.\u201d The most prominent alternative to oil right now in the U.S. is natural gas and Gal Luft, co-author of \u201cPetropoly\u201d, said that \u201cwhen you look at big oil\u2026they are becoming increasingly natural gas companies.\u201d A conversation with three experts on changing America\u2019s energy security paradigm. This program was recorded in front of a live audience at The Commonwealth Club of California on April 5, 2013\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices