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For the second episode of our NO BOOKS REQUIRED series, Trey Elling chats with Mike Leach, aka 'the Bill Murray of college football'. Questions include:

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• Does Mike like Zoom calls? (01:42)
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• Is he ever asked about his 'fat girlfriends' quote? (02:47)
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• How does Gardner Minshew impress him? (09:07)
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• Why did actor Jim Caviezel visit him in Starkville during the spring? (15:56)
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• What does Mike's plan for expanding the college football playoff to 64 teams look like? (18:06)
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• And just how believable is the internet rumor that Craig James killed five hookers while playing football at SMU? (30:58)
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