Join us for Episode 2, where Joel speaks with Carlie Hanson on the importance of art as therapy, the idea that every human is born creative and how growing up means figuring yourself out little by little. Hanson recounts her path from working at a McDonald\u2019s drive-thru to moving to LA fresh out of high school, where she slept on her manager\u2019s couch in pursuit of her musical aspirations\u2014all while experiencing life outside of Wisconsin for the first time. Check out Hanson\u2019s upcoming single, \u201cBlueberry Pancakes,\u201d coming out next Friday, February 3.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices