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New York Times bestselling author and my Time Out New York coworker Elise Loehnen (On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good) returns to talk about the way women are socialized to be "good" versus men who are socialized to be powerful. We discuss her podcast Pulling The Thread, the bible, patriarchy, never feeling good enough, Mary Magdalene, why sadness was dropped from the deadly sins, Substack, Joel Stein, motherhood, male wellness podcasters and so much more. We also did a round of Just Me Or Everyone and HGFY!

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